tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post2507701657559984056..comments2023-10-24T07:38:47.024-07:00Comments on A Shepherd's Voice: Courage vs DignityA Shepherd's Voicehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16743324067287303823noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-76582720281384180532008-05-18T01:01:00.000-07:002008-05-18T01:01:00.000-07:00>> "The Byzantine Catholic Church I loved treated ...>> "The Byzantine Catholic Church I loved treated my daughter as an outcast." <BR/><BR/>>> "Your story sounds fabricated in an attempt to discredit the church." <BR/><BR/>First of all, there's no such thing as "Byzantine Catholic Church." There are Byzantine (Greek) Rite churches a.k.a. "Constantinopolitan Rite," of which some are Greek-Catholic and the rest are Eastern-Orthodox Churches - not in union with the Roman (Latin) Catholic Church. <BR/><BR/>Secondly, it does seem you are not telling the whole truth in here. Since you mentioned "Byzantine Catholic Church" and rejection of "marriage in the Church," I'm guessing there was a mix up involved. <BR/><BR/>The Orthodox churches impose excommunication on their members who marry in the Roman CC, while there is not such problem from the Roman CC's side. Therefore in mixed (Orthodox-Catholic) marriages it is always advised that people marry in the Church of the Orthodox party rather than the Roman CC party, to avoid the Orthodox excommunication. <BR/><BR/>I think you should talk to a knowledgeable priest and encourage your daughter to have her marriage and religious life rectified. It’s not good for them to stay away from the sacraments for too long.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-63866999470535054012008-05-10T05:38:00.000-07:002008-05-10T05:38:00.000-07:00This does not sound at all like something that hap...This does not sound at all like something that happens in a Catholic community. There have been cases when a couple opt for a quiet ceremony instead of a large wedding regardless of the "condition" of the bride. Your story sounds fabricated in an attempt to discredit the church. There are details you have left out. What are they..........?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-24967961333098589672008-04-10T17:38:00.000-07:002008-04-10T17:38:00.000-07:00I don't know? They've been married six years, have...I don't know? <BR/>They've been married six years, have a brand new house, good jobs, a great marriage and a beautiful daughter -but no religion. I know my daughter was insulted by the whole rejection, and I doubt they'll ever go back to church. They have friends in the same boat. None of them feel the need to go back. Oh well. Say a prayer. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-32319653173279092982008-04-09T21:51:00.000-07:002008-04-09T21:51:00.000-07:00The reason no responsible Catholic priest would ma...The reason no responsible Catholic priest would marry the couple while the woman was pregnant is because the circumstances of the pregnancy could be construed as impeding the couple's will to "enter freely and without reservation" into matrimony. If there is any reason no suspect that one or both of the parties to a marriage is not acting in complete freedom, then the marriage cannot be celebrated. After the birth of the child, then the marriage could be celebrated in accord with the canons of the Catholic Church. Why didn't the priest explain that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-24991140355746871872008-04-07T19:02:00.000-07:002008-04-07T19:02:00.000-07:00Thank you for the advice, At the time we called ma...Thank you for the advice, At the time we called many local parishes besides the one we belonged to. No one would marry them while she was pregnant. <BR/>Although I am still upset by it, that was 6 years ago and sadly my daughter and son in law just aren't interested anymore. :(<BR/>I've tried to move on as well, but when I read stories of acceptance elsewhere, it still really bothers me. We were good people. We still are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-59156173489614308162008-04-07T18:00:00.000-07:002008-04-07T18:00:00.000-07:00anon 11:40am, If I'm reading your story correctly,...anon 11:40am, <BR/>If I'm reading your story correctly, the issue is with the individual priest. The sacrament of confession can give us all an opportunity for a new beginning. What you describe is not consistent with Church teachings. In other words, go find another priest.<BR/>graveyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-20281115916906253612008-04-07T11:40:00.000-07:002008-04-07T11:40:00.000-07:00Fishy isn't quite the word for it. Crushing is mor...Fishy isn't quite the word for it. Crushing is more like it. There isn't much more to share- first marriage for both of them, no irregularity, etc. <BR/>This happens all the time. Mine was not an isolated incident. People in the pews are held to a different standard sometimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-43400852433562124242008-04-05T22:58:00.000-07:002008-04-05T22:58:00.000-07:00Anon 11:53, Your story sounds fishy. Is there som...Anon 11:53, <BR/>Your story sounds fishy. Is there something more you'd like to share? <BR/>graveyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3256165281863652253.post-55783472767618498692008-04-05T11:53:00.000-07:002008-04-05T11:53:00.000-07:00Isn't that nice?In the meantime my daughter, who w...Isn't that nice?<BR/>In the meantime my daughter, who was engaged to a man for two years got pregnant and no Catholic church would marry them. They wer married by a minister who basically rented himself out to the place where the reception was held, to have some semblance of religion in their service. Because of that no Catholic church would baptize my grandchild. I was a more than faithful Catholic all of my life. I taught CCD, etc. I raised my daughter in the church and her now husband of seven years went through 12 years of Catholic school. <BR/>The Byzantine Catholic Church I loved treated my daughter as an outcast. I've since left and don't even bother with organized religion anymore...after 45 years of never missing a Sunday. Its nice to know gay men can get baptized without issue but a newborn baby can't. That speaks volumes about what is really important to the Church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com